Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:10:27 +0100 From: Alistair McMillan To: jr-at-jriddell.org Subject: A little correction. > Computer interface have long since been considered to be copyable. > Microsoft nicked Apple's. Apple nicked Xerox's. KDE and GNOME nick > from everyone. It's how these things advance. The nifty effect you > get when minimising a window in Mac OS X is patented. I found your article on patents recently from a link on glasgownet.com. Apple paid Xerox $1 million of shares in Apple in exchange for letting Apple pay two visits to their Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) to see the Smalltalk development system, not the Alto or Star machines that most people claim. Apple's subsequent IPO increased the value of those shares to $17.6 million. Also some of the people that worked at PARC were hired by Apple to work on the Macintosh, some pre-dating the PARC visits. Some of these people had actually started work on their GUI ideas before they even arrived at PARC and some of the stuff that is attributed to the PARC people was actually developed when they were working at Apple. In short Apple did not nick their GUI from Xerox. Microsoft however had access to a few Macs so that they could develop a version of Office to run on the Mac, and they used that as the basis of their Windows UI. Court documents prove that, including the $150 million Microsoft invested in Apple to make the court cases disappear. That said, I do agree that software patents should not be allowed. -- Alistair